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 Post subject: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 24th, 2009, 5:21 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 24th, 2009, 5:39 pm 
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NW has a chance to win this game and finish the year on a positive note. Waverly has had trouble stopping the run all year and will Robach be able to go at QB? Northwest cannot turn the ball over or throw interceptions in this game like they did against West. The injury bug has hit key players from both teams this year. One good for NW is that they have played a lot of sophmores this year who have gained valuable varsity experience. Good luck to Coach Thompson and NW.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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Since Waverly is a DIII school and Northwest a DIV, Wheelersburg needs Waverly to win this game for the points. I know it's only a .5 difference, but that .5 could mean the difference in playing in week #11 or starting basketball. Plus Waverly has 3 wins compared to 2 for Northwest so it would bode better for the Pirates with a Tiger win.


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Backwards logic there BG77, if NW wins Wheelersburg would get more points. Waverly being DIII is worth .5 more than NW.


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Backwards logic there BG77, if NW wins Wheelersburg would get more points. Waverly being DIII is worth .5 more than NW.


that's what I though. You want the smaller school to beat the bigger school.

What happened with Waverly and Minford? 14-7 was quite surprising.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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Then I guess I don't fully understand how the point system works. I thought you would want the bigger school with more wins to win the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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BG, here is how the points are assigned

Wins over a Division I school - 6.0 points
Wins over a Division II school - 5.5 points
Wins over a Division III school - 5.0 points
Wins over a Division IV school - 4.5 points
Wins over a Division V school - 4.0 points
Wins over a Division VI school - 3.5 points

since Burg has beaten both NW and Waverly. A NW win would get Burg 5 second level points and a Waverly win would get you 4.5 .

Heres a link to the OHSAA points system
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ft/boys/rankcalc.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 25th, 2009, 8:25 am 
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The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 25th, 2009, 5:03 pm 
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Maybe what people don't understand is since halftime at West the Tigers have had a sophomore QB running the show. Not to knock the backup but he's not at Roback's level yet. And our running back has been out for several weeks and once again the backup has been running good, but hes not the same kind of back as Malone.
People are shocked at Minford's 14-7 win. Waverly played an inspired and was one play away from being right there and I will just mention we had two turnovers taken away on the same drive thanks to the zebras.
For the Northwest game. I think the healthy Tigers playing in their last game at home will be able to close out this season with a win.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 25th, 2009, 5:09 pm 
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The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

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Good Luck Friday night!!

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Should this be considered as taking a shot at the staff from 3 years ago? Would the team 3 years ago have beaten the two teams the Mohawks have beaten this year? Just curious what you could possibly have against the staff from 3 years ago. You come across like you think they didn't work hard.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 25th, 2009, 11:48 pm 
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winchell wrote:
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The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

You Believe You Belong!

Good Luck Friday night!!

GO MOHAWKS!!


Should this be considered as taking a shot at the staff from 3 years ago? Would the team 3 years ago have beaten the two teams they have beaten this year? Just curious what you could possibly have against the staff from 3 years ago. You come across like you think they didn't work hard.


It does seem to come off that way KA may not mean it like that..... the program had a different coach but we busted our tails all the same in fact I feel our conditioning was even better, and excluding a few positions we were much stronger and more athletic. Im not trying to down the team I would never do that but we still have a way to go and the freshman this year could have helped change the tide but from what I heard 3/4 of them quit which has always been the problem not the coaching, not the mentality, not the talent. It comes down to this school is full of pansies that are lazy. And I give major props to all who do play but it's not enough, there are students walking around who could be major contributors, but they're babies who quit or are just to lazy to do anything


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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G&B from huddle wrote:
People are shocked at Minford's 14-7 win. Waverly played an inspired and was one play away from being right there and I will just mention we had two turnovers taken away on the same drive thanks to the zebras.
For the Northwest game. I think the healthy Tigers playing in their last game at home will be able to close out this season with a win.
Now come on G&B dont forget to mention the penalty differential in the 2nd half. I think Minford had like 115 yards of penalties in the 2nd half to Waverly's possible 30 yards. Dont take it wrong Waverly didnt lay down and they put up a hard fought game. Back to this game IMO Waverly wins Roback and Malone are both back and I think they will be hard to handle for the Mohawks more so now that Tyson Brown is out. Good luck and good health to both teams.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 8:22 am 
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G&B from huddle wrote:
Maybe what people don't understand is since halftime at West the Tigers have had a sophomore QB running the show. Not to knock the backup but he's not at Roback's level yet. And our running back has been out for several weeks and once again the backup has been running good, but hes not the same kind of back as Malone.
People are shocked at Minford's 14-7 win. Waverly played an inspired and was one play away from being right there and I will just mention we had two turnovers taken away on the same drive thanks to the zebras.
For the Northwest game. I think the healthy Tigers playing in their last game at home will be able to close out this season with a win.

Roback played QB on Friday night against Minford.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 8:38 am 
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Yes Roback was the QB Friday night but it was obvious he could not grip the ball. 35 yards passing and 2 interceptions while trying to "shot put" the ball makes that pretty obvious. I think if the Tigers were going to throw the ball they would have been better off with Kelly at QB and Roback at WR with the injury to his throwing hand lingering. Kelly did go 11-15 for over 100 yards the week before at Burg.

While Malone played on offense and scored the only Tiger TD, he was is far from 100%, probably only at about 50%. Earlier in the season, before the broken leg, he was also a force on defense.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 9:53 am 
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This game should a good one for both teams, last year was a close game and I look for this year to be a close one. Good Luck Mohawks!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 10:14 am 
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G&B from huddle wrote:
Maybe what people don't understand is since halftime at West the Tigers have had a sophomore QB running the show. Not to knock the backup but he's not at Roback's level yet. And our running back has been out for several weeks and once again the backup has been running good, but hes not the same kind of back as Malone.
People are shocked at Minford's 14-7 win. Waverly played an inspired and was one play away from being right there and I will just mention we had two turnovers taken away on the same drive thanks to the zebras.
For the Northwest game. I think the healthy Tigers playing in their last game at home will be able to close out this season with a win.


All I will say is good thing the downpour came in the 2nd quarter and not the 4th or it would have been a much bigger deficit than 7 points. OF COURSE BLAME IT ON THE REFS!

Dont know what you are talking about with Roback, he played QB Friday night, as did Malone.

One a side note- is Roback still going to Toledo? Heard a rumor that he withdrew his commitment?


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 10:19 am 
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How is Northwest getting better?? Lets call a spade a spade and a heart a heart. They will not show any growth until they can beat another SOC 1 team (PERIOD) How can you call getting beat 48-0 getting better??? I'm sick and tired of hearing this!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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As stated in the previous post Roback did indeed play QB but it was obvious he could not grip the ball. And yes Malone played for the 1st time since he broke his leg in week 3 but he was at about 50%, still limping badly. I was surprised Kevin returned to action Friday night but he did not play defense. Kevin was a force on defense before the broken leg. Roback has not played defense since the Ashland game either. Losing those two on defense has hurt more than many people know. The Tigers' top 2 players at far below 100% plus others not dressed. I only counted about 30 kids dressed Friday night.

There have been rumors of Derek withdrawing his verbal to Toledo but I haven't heard it was "official". Rumors of additional offers.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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This has the makings to be a very good football game.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 11:30 am 
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Bleeding Red,
As stated in the previous post Roback did indeed play QB but it was obvious he could not grip the ball. And yes Malone played for the 1st time since he broke his leg in week 3 but he was at about 50%, still limping badly. I was surprised Kevin returned to action Friday night but he did not play defense. Kevin was a force on defense before the broken leg. Roback has not played defense since the Ashland game either. Losing those two on defense has hurt more than many people know. The Tigers' top 2 players at far below 100% plus others not dressed. I only counted about 30 kids dressed Friday night.

There have been rumors of Derek withdrawing his verbal to Toledo but I haven't heard it was "official". Rumors of additional offers.


Well good luck to Roback. Everyone knows he is a good athlete. No doubt Waverly would have been in position to win more games this year if Roback and Malone had been healthy all year.

Waverly should have their way with Northwest. Sad to say but they just are not getting any better. They have a couple key kids out to injury which is not going to help their cause. It is going to take years to turn that football program around so I hope Northwest faithful has alot of patience and doesnt run the coaching staff off before that time comes.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 2:58 pm 
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Roback's hand looked fine from where I was sitting. Not being able to throw the ball was due to the weather, not his injury a few weeks ago. He didn't have any trouble gripping the football in warm-ups. I believe the monsoon kept the game closer than if it would have been if played on a dry field. However, both teams had to play in the same conditions.

Now, back to the topic at hand. I say the Tigers get back on track after a long five game skid and win this one by three touchdowns.


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Roback has not withdrawn his verbal committent to Toledo...he was at the Toldeo/Temple game on Saturday night.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 26th, 2009, 8:08 pm 
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winchell wrote:
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The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

You Believe You Belong!

Good Luck Friday night!!

GO MOHAWKS!!


Should this be considered as taking a shot at the staff from 3 years ago? Would the team 3 years ago have beaten the two teams the Mohawks have beaten this year? Just curious what you could possibly have against the staff from 3 years ago. You come across like you think they didn't work hard.


Should not be considered taking a shot at any coaching staff that has tried to make a difference at NW. Just trying to show support for a program I would like to see get better.........nothing more. Good Luck Friday Night Mohawks!!


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Kenraken Ahta wrote:
winchell wrote:
Kenraken Ahta wrote:
The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

You Believe You Belong!

Good Luck Friday night!!

GO MOHAWKS!!


Should this be considered as taking a shot at the staff from 3 years ago? Would the team 3 years ago have beaten the two teams the Mohawks have beaten this year? Just curious what you could possibly have against the staff from 3 years ago. You come across like you think they didn't work hard.


Should not be considered taking a shot at any coaching staff that has tried to make a difference at NW. Just trying to show support for a program I would like to see get better.........nothing more. Good Luck Friday Night Mohawks!!

Where are you getting this 5-4 crap? You have been blown out of every game except for the two you were lucky enough to win...I dont see how this program is any better than 10 or 20 years ago much less than three years ago...Dont mean to be negative but I just dont see it...Good Luck none the less..


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 27th, 2009, 8:46 pm 
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I think Waverly will have little problems with Northwest Friday night. With Roback, and Malone back they are a different team. And I watched Roback warming up before the game, he is ready. If it hadn't rained so hard he would have been able to throw the ball last Friday. And when Malone ran that touchdown, he looked pretty good also. I'm not saying that they are 100%, but they are ready to play. Northwest will have a hard time stopping them Friday. One thing you have to think about, is it going to rain Friday? Waverly's field proved it doesn't handle water very well. I was very sloppy Friday, and most of the grass between the 40's is gone. That will make a big difference on Roback throwing the ball. Even though, I think Waverly wins, and ends on a good note.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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Kenraken Ahta wrote:
The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

You Believe You Belong!

Good Luck Friday night!!

GO MOHAWKS!!

If you played Green 9 times you might be 5-4,then again you might be 4-5.NW has much work to be done to ever be competitive in the SOC 2 if that's even possible.No knock on Green either,but that's more on NW's level of competition right now.Good Luck!


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Slim Jim wrote:
Kenraken Ahta wrote:
The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

You Believe You Belong!

Good Luck Friday night!!

GO MOHAWKS!!

If you played Green 9 times you might be 5-4,then again you might be 4-5.NW has much work to be done to ever be competitive in the SOC 2 if that's even possible.No knock on Green either,but that's more on NW's level of competition right now.Good Luck!


Gonna have to disagree there if NW played green 10 times they would win 10 times by at least 35 each game


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all-time athlete wrote:
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The Northwest Mohawks are a much better football team than a season ago. They are "light years" ahead of where they were three years ago. This team could very well be 5-4 going into Friday night's contest at Waverly. I know, I know....woulda coulda shoulda. Over the years this program has just existed. What has happened to this program in the past two years will one day be looked upon as the turning point in Mohawk Football. Work hard in practice gentlemen, listen to your coaches. You can do this Friday night! You are a good football team!

You Believe You Belong!

Good Luck Friday night!!

GO MOHAWKS!!

If you played Green 9 times you might be 5-4,then again you might be 4-5.NW has much work to be done to ever be competitive in the SOC 2 if that's even possible.No knock on Green either,but that's more on NW's level of competition right now.Good Luck!


Gonna have to disagree there if NW played green 10 times they would win 10 times by at least 35 each game

Play them again and find out...Play ND too... You scheduled rent a victims for even NW's standand in Manchester and the other start up program I dont remember right off hand.Wouldn't it mean more play long time County rival teams as measuring stick games instead??


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GO MOHAWKS!![/quote]
If you played Green 9 times you might be 5-4,then again you might be 4-5.NW has much work to be done to ever be competitive in the SOC 2 if that's even possible.No knock on Green either,but that's more on NW's level of competition right now.Good Luck![/quote]

Gonna have to disagree there if NW played green 10 times they would win 10 times by at least 35 each game[/quote]
Play them again and find out...Play ND too... You scheduled rent a victims for even NW's standand in Manchester and the other start up program I dont remember right off hand.Wouldn't it mean more play long time County rival teams as measuring stick games instead??[/quote]

They used to and got dropped. They still scrimmage Green and played ND in the jamboree game this year. I believe they won both.


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^^^ and both were easy victory's.....i believe by 30 points over green and it was 28-6 against Notre Dame when the JV's were put in.

and about Northwest being blownout everygame.....lost 27-17 to East (had the lead in the second half the loss of Tyson Brown in the early part of the game was the reason we lost) 19-7 @ Piketon (threw 4 picks in that game...one deep in the redzone late in the game.) 14-0 @ Symmes Valley (Wasnt there so not sure)

A few injuries and plays and the Mohawks could definately be 5-4 going into this game.

So get your facts straight and if you dont get off the board


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
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I think Northwest showed some improvement, the first 4 games...but they have some pretty good seniors this year...the first four games they almost beat East (which they usually get blown out by), they beat Manchester (obviously), Piketon was 7-7 until the fourth quarter, and they beat Fairfield Christian...thats huge improvment from the past few years...I hear they didn't play very well against Symmes Valley, and that started a landslide. Still they should beat East, they should beat Symmes Valley, and they should be expected to give Piketon a game they are a big D4 they should beat D6's and team in their regions...I think K.a. was refering to the games they should of won as the first 5...Anyway, Northwest has a lot of problems, the first one is they don't have all of their athletes playing football, I noticed as I walked to concession at the Northwest-West game, there were a lot of big/athletic looking boys standing around, not on the field, they need to gets kids out. The second reason is that their has been little commitment to the weight room, it looks like that has changed some, but you can't have 4-5 decently strong kids and thats all, you need 4-5 really stout boys, and another 4-5 above average underneath them, they don't have that. Personally I think a lot the non-commitment to weight program has to due with the spread out district, there are ways around that though (make a weight lifting class, have coaches volunteer to take kids home). The parents try to coach the team and won't keep a coach around (much like West basketball). And lastly, the fact that its hard to overturn 30 years of losing...but it can be done...I think there are a few options to fix this: In my opinion the most logical one would be to make a supplemental contract to drop out of the Soc 2 for 5-10 years, and Northwest should schedule the weakest competition they can find (weaker Svc schools, weaker Tvc-Hocking teams in early weaks, and then fill in South Gallia's spot they have with Soc 1 teams), get as many wins as possible to get kids come out, and then we they are established as far as getting winning seasons then re-enter the Soc 2 for football...The problem with that would be having to drop in all other sports...if they could get out of the Soc for just football I think going independent would be logical, but I'm not the Ad or the coach


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^^^ and both were easy victory's.....i believe by 30 points over green and it was 28-6 against Notre Dame when the JV's were put in.

and about Northwest being blownout everygame.....lost 27-17 to East (had the lead in the second half the loss of Tyson Brown in the early part of the game was the reason we lost) 19-7 @ Piketon (threw 4 picks in that game...one deep in the redzone late in the game.) 14-0 @ Symmes Valley (Wasnt there so not sure)

A few injuries and plays and the Mohawks could definately be 5-4 going into this game.

So get your facts straight and if you dont get off the board

Blowout or not they are still L's in the record book!! And that will continue Friday night! Waverly 24,NW 8.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwest @ Waverly
PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 11:38 pm 
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^ i was not sayin they werent losses i was just pointing out that they were close games


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